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Sports Forum - Suarez 8 match ban for racism... - Page 1
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Statement from Liverpool FC...
Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him.
We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.
We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.
The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background.
LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act. It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.
It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.
Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.
He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.
It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised.
It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.
We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.
Personally, I'm amazed at the verdict and think this story has a looong way to run...
I heard there was a huge about turn late on regarding the 'verdict'..
With the amount of identical or worse unpunished incidents lately, it will be interesting to see how the other charge against him and the club go.
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It will be interesting to see how the Terry thing goes after this.
8 matches seems justifiable if he did it, and not if the evidence he did it is so weak. Though whenever I read a defence of someone who is accused of being racist that includes such wonders as, "he knows people who are black" does make me wonder as to their innocence. I mean, ok so your grandfather is black, therefore you can't be racist!!
Didn't we all descend from people who came from Africa? So maybe nobody can be racist! 
But I digress...
I'm sure it can't have been an easy thing for Evra to do in standing by his word that Suarez racially abused him. I doubt he would have had much support from other players.
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Rob Shepherd says...
I'm sure it can't have been an easy thing for Evra to do in standing by his word that Suarez racially abused him.Why not, he's had practice.. 
I agree though Rob, IF he did it in the context alleged then he deserved a ban - but as I said, I'm sure there's plenty more on this to come out.... including his admittance of racially abusing Suarez, who decided not to take it any further at the time.
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Given the absence of any cultural or language excuse in mitigation if Terry doesn't get at least a 10 to 12 match ban and considerably larger fine something will stink.
As in let's ban the horrible foreigner but not the 'upstanding' captain of our national team.
Not that that would in any way be racist or xenophobic.
As for the Suarez decision I suspect that they secretly expect the ban to be reduced on appeal.The fine is not really relevant. Not much more than a speeding fine to you and me given their salarys.
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The fine is not really relevant. Not much more than a speeding fine to you and me given their salarys.
A speeding fine to many people is like going without food for a week & more. The fine to Suarez is like us dropping a penny on the street & not bothering to pick it up.
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posted by Si Wooldridge on Wednesday, 21st December 2011, 09:03
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Some of that statement is truly cringeworthy - and I'd just like to make it clear that I'm not really that interested in this case or the Terry one. When you start on the 'some of my best friends are black' defence then you're on dodgy ground.
And bizarrely using Evra as a defence as a trustworthy soul and then stabbing him in the back by demanding he get charged as well is amateur hour behaviour.
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Guardian report says that he admitted use of the word "Negro", which kind of goes in the fact of "Negrito" is a non-offence term in Uruguay.
Then just had to decide guilty or not guilty. No room for “it’s a bit racist, but he didn’t really mean it like that”.
In fairness though, it same as Ron Atkinson. Loads of black players said he wasn’t a racist. But then he called Desailly a “lazy f*cking c**n”. I assume the evidence is that he called him a “negro” and he has admitted that. FA were in a hard spot though. I’m not convinced it’s the witch hunt that Liverpool and their fans think. I think they wanted to let him off and for it all to disappear, but basically as it’s racism, an act had to be made. Simple is he guilty or not. Can’t really have “levels of racism” so it was right if he is on camera saying it or not they had to decide the punishment first.
Then just had to decide guilty or not guilty. No room for “it’s a bit racist, but he didn’t really mean it like that”. So if he's said it then there's not much they could do.
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1mills says...
I think they wanted to let him off and for it all to disappear, but basically as it’s racism, an act had to be made. Simple is he guilty or not.Aye I think that's basically what it comes down to. You can't have someone using racist language just because in their country it's not racist, they aren't in that country, and football clearly can't pretend to not tolerate it and then throw in exceptions.
Suarez's claim that his teammates call him the same was, erm, interesting. Perhaps Evra has been racially abused a lot in his career (I'd be amazed if he hasn't at all) and this is the last straw?
I do think that there is no room in football for abusing other players in any way, whether it be physically or verbally as some kind of lame attempt to rile them up and get them to do something which results in them being sent off.
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Rob Shepherd says...
You can't have someone using racist language just because in their country it's not racist, they aren't in that country, and football clearly can't pretend to not tolerate it and then throw in exceptions.
I don't follow football as you all know, but think this statement would open a much wider can of worms if expanded.
A bit like going to a foreign country and you need to follow their Laws etc., so if females display their faces then they are breaking the law etc., so would that then mean that if they visit this country they have to change their terminology and vocabularly to suit ours but if they go back to (I think Uganda is the mentioned country) then it's OK to go around in that game using the offensive vocabulary there?
Remember, I have no stance on this as a football thing, just that line sorta got the grey matter asking clarification 
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