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Composition can be copyright too
posted by Rob Shepherd on Friday, 27th January 2012, 12:05

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An interesting ruling recently, which I suspect has a lot more implications for commercial photographers than us amateurs, though with Flickr and some clever software to analyse it all, an awful lot of images could be shown to have prior art.

But anyway... this photograph by Justin Fielder, and licensed by the Temple Island Collection Ltd:



And this is the image New English Teas used on its packaging:



The latter looks to be a re-creation of the former, to avoid paying them a license fee for its use. The court agreed that it infringed copyright.

Full story here:
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/photographers_face_copyright_threat_after_shock_ruling__news_311191.html


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RE: Composition can be copyright too
posted by Paull on Sunday, 29th January 2012, 11:57

Elite

They are two different photos & two different compositions. I bet hundreds of photographers have left just the Red bus in colour in similar shots.


Just a quick google came up with these. 

This item was edited on Sunday, 29th January 2012, 12:03

RE: Composition can be copyright too
posted by Jimbo :oÞ on Sunday, 29th January 2012, 16:15

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I looked at this a few times and tbh, have to agree with Paull.
The clock faces are different shapes, the buildings have a different layout, the buses are at differing angles, the background tbh is completely different except it has similar style buildings in both.

The only actual similarities in both is a red bus on a black and white background with similar buildings.
If THAT is copyright capable then almost every photo now taken can be claimed as such.
I'm not suggesting that image 1 isn't the inspiration for image 2 as there is a similar feel to them but it could also be just complete random chance.

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RE: Composition can be copyright too
posted by admars on Sunday, 29th January 2012, 16:38

Elite

I seems an amazing co-incidence though, that the tea company declined to use the original photo, but then happened to have a similar idea themelves.

To me it sounds similar to music cases, where bands have been taken to court accused of stealing a riff from another song and artist. I'm sure some haven't deliberately chosen to steal some music, but may have heard the original, or have by chance "copied" something already done.

The Tea company probably thought they could get away with stealing some-one else's idea

RE: Composition can be copyright too
posted by Paull on Wednesday, 7th March 2012, 18:40

Elite

I meant to post this a few weeks back, but in Amateur Photographer a reader pointed out that using darkroom techniques, he used to get the students make much the same photos with the bus left in red many years ago.

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