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Did I hear this correctly?
posted by bowfer on Tuesday, 10th June 2008, 14:33

Elite

Are they saying an off-the-pitch Italian player, receiving treatment, played Van Nistelroy onside??? Confused

RE: Did I hear this correctly?
posted by mbilko on Tuesday, 10th June 2008, 14:35

Elite

Yes

RE: Did I hear this correctly?
posted by Mister Smee on Tuesday, 10th June 2008, 14:36

Elite

He left the pitch of his own accord having collided with his own goalie and was next to the goal. He hadn't been ordered from the pitch by the ref so was therefore still classed as active. See here

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RE: Did I hear this correctly?
posted by Rob Shepherd on Tuesday, 10th June 2008, 14:49

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He wasn't receiving treatment, he'd only just gone down, and as Smee says after a collision with his own goalkeeper!

If by just going off the pitch you are deemed to no longer be involved in play then think of the cheating you could achieve by dancing back and forth over the line. We know that some players exaggerate an injury to stop play (and guilt trip the opposing team to put the ball out even though they have possession), if this was disallowed I dread to think of how often players going down in the box would lead to laughable rolling out of play.


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RE: Did I hear this correctly?
posted by 1mills on Tuesday, 10th June 2008, 14:55

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What's the craic about your not allowed back on the field of play unless the ref allows you though?

I'm sure there's been instances where players have tried the old standing behind the keeper trick after their momentum has taken them off the field, but then waited for the keeper to drop the ball, then been booked for coming back onto the field of play without the referees permission?

When I first saw that goal last night thought definitely offside, but watching it on the replay then, the speed with which the players gone off the field and then the ball being crossed in I would say that he is onside.



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RE: Did I hear this correctly?
posted by bowfer on Tuesday, 10th June 2008, 15:00

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Quote:
I'm sure there's been instances where players have tried the old standing behind the keeper trick after their momentum has taken them off the field, but then waited for the keeper to drop the ball, then been booked for coming back onto the field of play without the referees permission?


Robbie Keane nearly caught out David James doing this last season, remember.
he certainly didn't wait for the referee's permission to come on, and wasn't booked for it.

I'm sure this goal is 'technically' correct, but common sense should prevail, surely.
if the player that had gone off the pitch was standing, you could argue he's active, as he has the ability to influence play.
If he's on the ground and it's clear he isn't getting up, he doesn't have the ability to influence the play, so he can't be active?

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RE: Did I hear this correctly?
posted by 1mills on Tuesday, 10th June 2008, 15:22

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Quote:
Robbie Keane nearly caught out David James doing this last season, remember.
he certainly didn't wait for the referee's permission to come on, and wasn't booked for it


It wasn't Premier League the one I'm thinking of.

I think when Robbie Keane's done it, he usually makes sure he comes back on to the field as slow as possible rather than just waiting there (which is what happened in the incident I'm thinking of).



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RE: Did I hear this correctly?
posted by Rob Shepherd on Tuesday, 10th June 2008, 15:25

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Isn't that all about leaving the field for treatment? Otherwise whenever you left the field of play to retrieve the ball (as a goalkeeper) or take a throw in, you'd have to ask permission.

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RE: Did I hear this correctly?
posted by Mister Smee on Tuesday, 10th June 2008, 15:30

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Or whenever there is an opposition attack against one defender, the goalie could hop behind the line to play them offside.

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RE: Did I hear this correctly?
posted by bowfer on Tuesday, 10th June 2008, 15:47

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What would have happened if the player concerned were unconscious, or had broken an ankle?
He hasn't asked permission to leave the pitch, but he's clearly unable to influence play!
It's all so f***ing confusing.,
The bloke was on the deck, no chance of influencing play.
Regardless of whether he asked for permission to leave the pitch, or his actual position, he's inactive! Angry

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