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Spot the naughty mistake!! (Car related)
posted by dusty321 on Tuesday, 13th December 2011, 19:15

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Hey all, just back with my nice 51 plate Citroen Saxo and thought I'd do a MOT history check. This is what came back:

Date of test:22/09/2006Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:74,524 Miles

Date of test:17/09/2007Certificate issued (Pass)
Odometer reading:88,570 Miles

Date of test:10/09/2008Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:105,100 Miles

Date of test:30/10/2009Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:62,250 Miles

Date of test:05/11/2010Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:65,977 Miles

It's not difficult to see what's going on here and I'm vvvveeeerrrrryyyy ****ed off!!!  

I suppose in the first instant I need to talk to the trader but he could well say I didn't know, feck off!?!

Any thoughts chaps please please.....

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RE: Spot the naughty mistake!! (Car related)
posted by Rob Shepherd on Tuesday, 13th December 2011, 21:21

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Oh my Sad

I'm not sure what's worse, the failed MOT for 3 years in a row, or the sudden change in mileage. Does him knowing or not matter under law?

What circumstances did you buy the car under?


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RE: Spot the naughty mistake!! (Car related)
posted by Pete-MK on Tuesday, 13th December 2011, 21:32

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Did the car have a new (recon) engine installed? I believe that's the only time you can legally wind back the clock

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RE: Spot the naughty mistake!! (Car related)
posted by Jimbo :oȚ on Tuesday, 13th December 2011, 22:07

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AFAIK it's illegal to wind the clock back in any circumstances HOWEVER it is NOT illegal to change clocks or mileage unless you intend to sell the vehicle claiming the mileage is genuine.

I also believe the DVLA will more than happily help out but I'm not 100% on the never any circumstances, but 99.9%.... I can ask me usual person but not until tomorrow, but I also believe this method you have just used was recently added by DVLA for this very purpose.

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RE: Spot the naughty mistake!! (Car related)
posted by dusty321 on Tuesday, 13th December 2011, 22:50

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The short story is it was traded 1 owner from new to the dealer, bought by a bird in 09 then traded back in 11, 3 owners from new...... The fails ain't so bad the usual tyres, CV boots head light alignment exhaust downpipe etc... Initially I suspected it had been owned by an elderly person/couple who went out high days and holidays what with the current mileage showing @ only 69k..

No new engine, the VIN on the 2010 MOT matches all the other info. Another thing that struck me as odd is when a test is done and the car logged onto the MOT database the tester should according to others have been presented with the last recorded mileage for comparison, if this is the case I wonder why it wasn't picked up on?

****ing dodgy car dealers!   

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RE: Spot the naughty mistake!! (Car related)
posted by sj on Tuesday, 13th December 2011, 22:55

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Quote:
Pete-MK says...
Did the car have a new (recon) engine installed? I believe that's the only time you can legally wind back the clock
Not as far as I know you can't.  What do you wind it back to?  The rest of the car's still done the mileage. etc..

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RE: Spot the naughty mistake!! (Car related)
posted by Pete-MK on Tuesday, 13th December 2011, 23:03

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The mileage isn't the car, it's the wear on the engine, IIRC

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RE: Spot the naughty mistake!! (Car related)
posted by bandicoot on Wednesday, 14th December 2011, 00:00

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Its amazing what you buy without knowing in the car game.

I bought a secondhand Ford Capri years ago and drove it for six months before someone told me that the number plate at the back, was not the same number plate at the front.

At the front there was a J in the numberplate and at the back a G.

I phoned up the DVLC and they told me to change the number plate to the logbook which had a J , as per the front numberplate.

I then changed the back plate to suit paperwork and all two plates the same, sorted !

Then a month later the DVLC sent me a new log book with a G in it  
 
i then had two log books and two different number plates. ARGH !

Eventually sorted many months later.

RE: Spot the naughty mistake!! (Car related)
posted by Jimbo :oȚ on Wednesday, 14th December 2011, 01:43

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Quote:
Pete-MK says...
The mileage isn't the car, it's the wear on the engine, IIRC
Not as far as I've ever known including the short period when I worked in a car dealership.
The engine could be a brand new or recon unit, but the suspension, driveshafts, gearbox, bodywork, wiring etc etc have all been through the original mileage.

We used to have stickers to put onto the clocks which stated something like "mileage unverified" for anything we thought might have had the clocks changed or been farted around with and were priced accordingly (that is, bought in as if it had a million miles on it for next to nothing, sold on for next to normal price for a low mileage unit Winking )

I'd say definitely worth a call to the DVLA and ask, if you've been sold the car claiming the current mileage is genuine then you've been quite clearly done (possibly by the trader-in not the dealer but it's his responsibility to verify before sale and it's as easy as a quick mot search as you have just shown)

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RE: Spot the naughty mistake!! (Car related)
posted by sj on Wednesday, 14th December 2011, 06:54

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Quote:
Pete-MK says...
The mileage isn't the car, it's the wear on the engine, IIRC
Sorry Pete, I think that's 100% wrong - it's the car's mileage, not specifically the engine's (although that's what is often 'worried' about.

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