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Ministers to look at 80mph limit
posted by Miles on Thursday, 29th September 2011, 22:39

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Ministers to look at 80mph limit
The government is to launch a consultation on increasing the speed limit on Britain's motorways from 70mph to 80mph.
Isn't it just legalising what a sizeable majority of road users already do?!

I'd also want them to start penalising people for not using all lanes of motorways (i.e. pulling in when not overtaking)...since that often causes frustration and then sometimes reckless driving as a result.

RE: Ministers to look at 80mph limit
posted by bandicoot on Thursday, 29th September 2011, 23:01

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At present on motorways without speed cameras, most motorists are already driving at 80 MPH and the police are not too bothered. I feel that I am stationary doing 70 MPH on the inside lane.

The big worry by the idea to move up to a legalised 80 MPH would then give a green light for the majority of drivers to speed to 90 MPH. So it is not such a good idea.


As for lane hugging, well a lot of motorists are considerate and move back in a lane, but I do hate seeing undertaking when a guy is frustrated by the car in front hogging the outside lane, and just goes for it, oblivious to the dangers involved. Both drivers are in the wrong.

RE: Ministers to look at 80mph limit
posted by Jimbo :oŞ on Friday, 30th September 2011, 03:42

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bandicoot says...
The big worry by the idea to move up to a legalised 80 MPH would then give a green light for the majority of drivers to speed to 90 MPH. So it is not such a good idea.
The way I read it they are asking for an increase to 80 but with rigorous control and enforcement so a car at the moment doing 80 has about a 60% chance of a cop pulling him in for it as it's hard to get  a convction whereas one doing 85/90 will get stopped and charged or at very least an earful.

If they up the limit they are asking for a tighter control on that but the speedo variant thing would leave me with a bit of a concern.

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I do hate seeing undertaking when a guy is frustrated by the car in front hogging the outside lane, and just goes for it, oblivious to the dangers involved. Both drivers are in the wrong.
I agree and also agree this should have some form of enforcement on it, but the undertaking driver could technically argue the congested traffic rule as traffic in the right hand lane is moving slower than the left lane he used....?

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RE: Ministers to look at 80mph limit
posted by bowfer on Friday, 30th September 2011, 11:43

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The big worry by the idea to move up to a legalised 80 MPH would then give a green light for the majority of drivers to speed to 90 MPH. So it is not such a good idea.

Surveys seem to show this wouldn't be the case.
They showed most people have self-imposed comfort limits for speed.
Raising the limit to 80mph wouldn't suddenly lead to a rise in people doing 90mph at all.
Those who already do 90mph still will, but there's no evidence they'd suddenly jump to 100mph.
And those who don't do 90mph at the moment won't when the limit is raised.
If you think about it, it makes perfect sense.
Unlimited autobahns aren't full of people doing 120mph, even though a very average car can do that.
The drivers aren't comfy doing it, so they don't.

This item was edited on Friday, 30th September 2011, 11:46

RE: Ministers to look at 80mph limit
posted by Rob Shepherd on Friday, 30th September 2011, 11:48

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I think most people and modern cars are fine at 80mph. My problem is with people ignoring stopping distances and tailgating, and weaving around traffic and undertaking like it's a race track. Many of the other things mentioned above are very annoying but I don't see them as dangerous, or *as* dangerous. Happy


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RE: Ministers to look at 80mph limit
posted by bowfer on Friday, 30th September 2011, 12:10

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As things stand just now, 90mph is pretty much my self-imposed limit.
Conditions allowing, of course.
It's the right balance, for me, between taking a chance with plod, comfort and getting there quickly.
Raising the limit to 80mph is going to correspondingly push me onto 100mph.
I don't like cars at that speed for long at all.

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RE: Ministers to look at 80mph limit
posted by Snaps on Friday, 30th September 2011, 12:11

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They should look at changing the lane discipline to that in the States ie: no slow, medium and overtaking just different lanes at different speeds.
How many times have you seen the fast lane nose to tail and middle lane empty.
It may be intended that everyone travels in the left hand lane unless overtaking but very often that lane has been wrecked by the Artics and the only comfortable ride is in the middle.
Raising the limit to 80 is just plain common sense. Might reduce the income from speeding tickets but I suspect will have zero effect on accident rates.

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RE: Ministers to look at 80mph limit
posted by bandicoot on Friday, 30th September 2011, 14:31

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Another thing raising its ugly head again is Vince Cable wanting to toll OUR motorways (will politicians not give up on this golden goose idea, again).

Lets hope he falls of his face (or sword).

We had the Birmigham bypass TOLL road that was made years ago, and most people including myself wll not use it on priniciple, no matter if its a 10 minute saving.

I have paid for these roads over 38 years of road tax (since I came to this country)  and there is no way I am paying for toll roads. Most of us feel the same way.

They just cannot think up more ways of ripping off motorists.

RE: Ministers to look at 80mph limit
posted by bowfer on Friday, 30th September 2011, 16:14

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We had the Birmigham bypass TOLL road that was made years ago, and most people including myself wll not use it on priniciple, no matter if its a 10 minute saving.



I love that road!
No more sitting staring at Fort Dunlop in a bloody jam.
But I'm only using it a few times a year, I grant you.

RE: Ministers to look at 80mph limit
posted by bandicoot on Friday, 30th September 2011, 17:09

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No more sitting staring at Fort Dunlop in a bloody jam.
But I'm only using it a few times a year, I grant you
And at cost !

Mind you, you are talking to guy whose annual 'pay for parking' is under a tenner.
I hate paying for parking, and will only do so, if no alternative.

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