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Should we bring back caning?
posted by fluff_n_stuff on Friday, 16th September 2011, 09:14

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-14927898

Apparently, 49% of times readers feel we should bring back caning in our schools.  Story above, what does everyone else think?  Does anyone remember the cane being used?

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RE: Should we bring back caning?
posted by sj on Friday, 16th September 2011, 09:26

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lol.  So we should allow teachers to physically abuse our children when we don't/can't?
Problem with a lot of parents is that they actually see discipline and good behaviour as something that should be taught in school and is not their responsibility. Sad
That would be a huge 'no' from me then in answer to your question...

Oh, and your other question....Yes I was caned once.

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RE: Should we bring back caning?
posted by Si Wooldridge on Friday, 16th September 2011, 10:17

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No, I was never caned but I was beanied (swift knuckle across the head...).  Actually despite that, the offender was one of my favourite teachers...

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RE: Should we bring back caning?
posted by kebabhead on Friday, 16th September 2011, 10:30

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Whilst I never got caned, the fear of being caned kept most kids in check

RE: Should we bring back caning?
posted by smurfette on Friday, 16th September 2011, 11:39

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I think the complete ban on any kind of corporal punishment in or out of school is wrong, and a combination of this (no threat of pain) and a complete "let them do as they like" attitude from a lot of parents has led to a generation of anarchists in our society.

I remember the cane, the slipper, the ruler. I received a sharp rap across the knuckles with a ruler ONCE. Never again. That did the trick, I can assure you. These days if a teacher tries to tell a pupil off, they are laughed at. After all, if they "do anything", the pupil will get their parents to call the police, and their career is down the drain.

The balance is wrong somehow, and it needs to tilt back the other way. It does not have to be extreme.

RE: Should we bring back caning?
posted by Gareth Williams on Friday, 16th September 2011, 11:41

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There is absolutely no way this would happen now anyway, for 2 reasons:

1. The human rights implications
2. Even if it did come back, most teachers wouldn't do it out of fear of reprisals from the thugs that inhabit our schools.

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RE: Should we bring back caning?
posted by fluff_n_stuff on Friday, 16th September 2011, 12:38

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Have to admit I agree with SJ entirely on this one.

My kids are ewll behaved, and I don't hit them, I don't need to.  I don't think its fair that someone else should wallop our kids essentially because we can't be bothered to teach them right from wrong.

There's nothing wrong with writing lines, time outs, detentions etc dependant on the age of our children, but no-one should have the right to hit my kids.

If it ever came in, I would home school my two Happy

RE: Should we bring back caning?
posted by Rob Shepherd on Friday, 16th September 2011, 12:43

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I think using violence against children is just showing them that violence is acceptable. Also the idea that the fact we no longer cane kids at school is the reason some kids are out of control these days, is just laughable. It's just one of those easy single things you can blame instead of the real complicated issues, like computer games, rap music, horror films, rock music...

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smurfette says...
I remember the cane, the slipper, the ruler. I received a sharp rap across the knuckles with a ruler ONCE. Never again. That did the trick, I can assure you.
Just being told off did the trick for me. I think the mistake here is to assume that what worked for you works for everyone. The thing about any sort of punishment, is people become immune to it, so what do you do, start leaving permanent scars on kids?

There is this place where people go to learn that afaik doesn't use corporal punishment, and does pretty well on shouting at people to make them do all sorts of things they don't want to do. It's called the army!


There are a few things I remember from primary school, one was being slapped across the back of the legs by the head master for talking during morning assembley (a first offence!), the other was this horrible teacher that would flick, pull, and generally hurt the ears of anybody in the class for any reason. Seriously not a nice person.

Come secondary school they'd finally banned corporal punishment, so I just got pain inflicted on me by bullys.


As Fluff says, there are plenty of punishments that don't require violence. I like the idea put forward a few years ago by (at least I think it was) teachers, where parents signed up to a contract with the school they take their kids to, that outlines clearly what is expected of their children. If the kids don't abide by the rules, and the punishments for breaking them, the parents can't argue with the teachers about it, it's clearly the parents responsibility to sort it out.

There are always going to be some parents who still refuse to take responsibility for their children's actions, or are unable to, and there should be systems in place to help solve that.


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RE: Should we bring back caning?
posted by Snaps on Friday, 16th September 2011, 13:10

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They should re-introduce caning tomorrow if not sooner.
For Politicians, Bankers, Reporters and generally any smug b'stards in the public eye, of which there are many.


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RE: Should we bring back caning?
posted by kebabhead on Friday, 16th September 2011, 13:38

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Quote:
Rob Shepherd says...
I think using violence against children is just showing them that violence is acceptable

Yet we live in a world where violence is an everyday occurance whether in the news on glamourised on the big screen

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