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General Forum - Content ripping `to be legalised` - Page 1
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Content ripping 'to be legalised'
Soon it will no longer be illegal for Britons to rip music from CDs or movies from DVDs for their own use.
I just hope somebody from Disney doesn't get to dear old Vince first and treat him to a slap-up meal in exchange for reversing that policy and making content ripping a capital offence.
Oh, and fanfic will be legal as well. 
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I've always been perplexed that CD ripping is deemed illegal, when Microsoft, normally the bastions of copyright protection, bundle some of the best ripping software with their media player
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Well done Vince, only about 10 years behind the times.
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Uhh, you mean 40 years, it was the same with cassettes in late 60s.Quote:
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Well done Vince, only about 10 years behind the times.
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Am I right in thinking that when a retailer sells a 2nd hand CD or DVD, the copyright owner gets no royalties? Doesn't 2nd hand prevent a sale as much as a person ripping a CD for their own use? (Or copying a CD/MP3 folder for a friend for that matter) Maybe we're just lucky they've not decided to crack down on 2nd hand during the time that copying for personal use has been illegal!
The most interesting part of this law change to me is that it'll be legal to copy/rip CDs and give them to family members (unsure if this actually means within the same household. I bet they'll make sure not everyone you share a 25th-great-grandmother with counts as "family" 
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Am I right in thinking that when a retailer sells a 2nd hand CD or DVD, the copyright owner gets no royalties? Doesn't 2nd hand prevent a sale as much as a person ripping a CD for their own use? (Or copying a CD/MP3 folder for a friend for that matter) Maybe we're just lucky they've not decided to crack down on 2nd hand during the time that copying for personal use has been illegal!
The most interesting part of this law change to me is that it'll be legal to copy/rip CDs and give them to family members (unsure if this actually means within the same household. I bet they'll make sure not everyone you share a 25th-great-grandmother with counts as "family" Winking ). The original line from FACT was "It's illegal to transfer copywritten material from it's original medium to another", meaning pretty much what's already been said. Although you own a physical copy, the studio still owns the copyright. You're essentially 'borrowing' their media on the condition you don't give it to someone else for free.
You're right to say the copyright owner only gets some cash at the original point of sale, and IMHO, that's pretty much the way it should be. If you trade in a DVD for a pittance, and the shop then resells that DVD, the studio gets bugger all. THIS is why companies like Sony are paving the way for the new digital revolution in the form of digital downloads. Think PSN and steam. You can get your games, but you can't sell them on once you've finished.
The whole point of it was that studios were getting annoyed they couldn't squeeze every penny out of us for every time a single copy was sold or resold, and ripping a DVD to put it on your PSP robbed them of a UMD sale.
Well, bugger that, I say. I spend a lot of time out driving, and every now and again I may want to watch Die Hard when i'm bored. I own a copy of die hard, and I have the tools and the talent to pop it on my little black brick if I want to.
However, the law change WON'T allow you to make several physical copies of a CD and give them to your relatives (even your grandmother). It'll still be 'one purchase, one owner',
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However, the law change WON'T allow you to make several physical copies of a CD and give them to your relatives (even your grandmother). It'll still be 'one purchase, one owner',
It says here that it will mean you can share with immediate family members (but doesn't specify about if they have to live in the same home like the BBC report didn't).
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However, the law change WON'T allow you to make several physical copies of a CD and give them to your relatives (even your grandmother). It'll still be 'one purchase, one owner', Actually, I think it will allow it - although the criteria aren't too clear yet.
EDIT: Sorry, xfg, hadn't even noticed your post appear..
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We will pay the price but we will not count the cost..
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About bloody time. 
IN MADNESS YOU DWELL
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Apologies, hadn't read that particular article. I can see that particular piee of the new law geting exploited up the whazou. Like you said xfg, what's the definition of 'immediate family member'? I'm closer to my sister's daughter than I am to my brother, so who can i share my music with?
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